Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Sam Elliott.
[00:00:01] Speaker B: Sam Elliot. Man, what a great actor.
[00:00:04] Speaker A: Say when.
[00:00:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:00:06] Speaker A: Tombstone.
[00:00:07] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:00:07] Speaker A: Say, win.
[00:00:08] Speaker B: Such a good movie.
That's the Huckleberry quote, too, right?
[00:00:12] Speaker A: People always thought he was saying, like. Like, huckleberry. It's a huckleberry.
[00:00:16] Speaker B: Is that what it is?
[00:00:17] Speaker A: Yeah. The guys that were carrying the casket, they were huckleberries.
[00:00:21] Speaker B: Oh, all right.
[00:00:22] Speaker A: And we always thought was huckleberry.
[00:00:23] Speaker B: There you go. See, that's just one of those things we grew up thinking we knew and we were wrong. There's a name for that. I forget what it's called.
[00:00:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Even song lyrics.
[00:00:30] Speaker B: I used to think it was shake.
[00:00:31] Speaker A: Your blue thing, not your groove thing. I'm like, what?
[00:00:34] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:00:35] Speaker A: Stephen Curse. We were standing there. We were going to the bathroom, and I was going, shaky blue thing. He goes, what are you saying? It's a groove thing.
[00:00:43] Speaker B: It's tearing you up.
[00:00:45] Speaker A: I thought it was funny, though, shaking your blue thing.
[00:00:47] Speaker B: Yeah, it was cold. Yeah, whatever.
This is definitely a podcast for men at this point. Yeah, we've already heard one pea story. Now we're hearing a second one.
Let's talk about today. I think we maybe got onto something today, huh?
[00:01:22] Speaker A: Yeah. It's funny how some kind of an experience can trigger other things, and somehow you can make them work together, I think that synergy kind of a thing. And if you don't ever talk about, like, what you saw just happen, like in a story, if you don't write it down, you will forget it. So that's one of the keys. You got to take notes, man.
[00:01:42] Speaker B: Another great day of hanging out with you. I appreciate you and fun day today because we connected. We sort of connected, all three of us, together, which is Kevin Fair, a mutual friend through just typical God ways.
[00:01:58] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, he lives.
[00:01:59] Speaker B: He's in Colorado, out in the mountains.
[00:02:01] Speaker A: 100 miles away from me.
[00:02:02] Speaker B: Yeah. But growing up, he and I hunted and fished together, and then he went off to Desert storm. We didn't spend a lot of time together after that. A little bit more hunting and fishing. And I was just recalling a story about these, about when Kevin and I were in this nasty mountains lightning storm. And, of course, you've got your lightning storms and hailstorms, and he's got more storms than anyone wants to hear.
[00:02:23] Speaker A: Yeah, we met probably around 2008. I was doing the ATA show in Indianapolis, the Archery trade association, and then I would do the shot show every year, and he was working for some outdoor companies, and that's how we connected, through a mutual friend, Roger Medley. And we still, to this day, we talk to each other every few weeks.
[00:02:42] Speaker B: Where is the shot show?
[00:02:44] Speaker A: Vegas.
[00:02:44] Speaker B: Vegas, yeah. Yeah. That's also. That's a fun and also nasty place to visit.
[00:02:50] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. You know, it's like people bring their kids there. I'm like, what are you thinking?
[00:02:55] Speaker B: You know, I mean, there are places you can go where it's fine to have kids, but don't walk the strip.
[00:02:59] Speaker A: Don't walk the strip? Yeah. Do not walk the strip with your kid.
[00:03:02] Speaker B: Don't walk the strip as an adult.
[00:03:03] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:03:04] Speaker B: Whatever you can do. Get on those trams. Just go from building to building. Skip the strip.
[00:03:08] Speaker A: Here's what.
[00:03:08] Speaker B: When I skip the strip, that's gonna be my.
[00:03:11] Speaker A: Skip this.
[00:03:11] Speaker B: Yeah, skip this trip.
[00:03:12] Speaker A: It's my biggest.
I, you know, I get up in the morning, I do breakfast there at the hotel or usually, or Bob Evans just down the road a little bit. And I can walk to my. To my booth. It takes me about ten minutes to walk there, but I'm going, like, through the back ways. I'm not.
[00:03:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:03:27] Speaker A: Cause and then when I'm done with the show, we go to dinner somewhere close to the hotel, and then I go right back. I don't do the nightlife.
[00:03:33] Speaker B: For those that don't know, you are accosted as you walk up and down the strip by people handing out little cards, business cards of pictures of naked people. And you don't want it.
[00:03:43] Speaker A: I was walking behind these two little boys. They're probably about, you know, 1211, something like that, with their parents. And people would just get these cards because you don't know what they are. And then people would, like, throw them. Miss the trash can.
[00:03:54] Speaker B: Oh, they're all over the floor.
[00:03:55] Speaker A: These little boys are, like, trying to sneak over and grab these cards. It's the age. They're curious, right?
[00:04:00] Speaker B: Yeah, they are. They're little cowboys.
[00:04:02] Speaker A: They're little cowboys.
[00:04:03] Speaker B: That's a John Eldridge term.
[00:04:04] Speaker A: It is a little term. And that. There you go. Segway.
[00:04:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Right. Well done. I don't know if you meant to do that or not, but good job, Brent. Yeah, yeah. So, John Eldridge in four streams. Yes, scrolling. It's about four streams. I was scrolling to find the name of the actual book. I'm going to get it here in a second.
Fathered by God.
[00:04:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:04:26] Speaker B: Learning what your dad could never teach you. And he talks about these six ish 123456 streams.
[00:04:34] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, you start off as the beloved child. You know, you're very young. You're. The world is great. You know, your faith hasn't really been shaken yet because everything's been given to you. You think it's always going to be.
[00:04:44] Speaker B: That kind of believe your parents, whatever they tell you.
[00:04:46] Speaker A: Yeah. And you're the apple of their eye.
[00:04:48] Speaker B: Right.
[00:04:50] Speaker A: And then you move into the cowboy stage, which is kind of that adventurous, exploratory. You know, maybe you're learning how to ride horses. You're. You get to go on your first hunt, you know, and maybe track a deer or whatever. Those things.
[00:05:00] Speaker B: Yeah. The thing Indiana Jones never grew out of, and I want to never grow out of it either, although I don't mind the other streams. I just also want to be adventurous.
[00:05:07] Speaker A: That's kind of my.
[00:05:08] Speaker B: You too? Oh, yeah, there's no, no doubt. Just given your history.
[00:05:11] Speaker A: Yeah. And then you got, like, the warrior stage. You know, you're engaging, you see the battle, and you've really been honing your skills. And I always say to be dangerous for good, you know, kind of a deal.
[00:05:23] Speaker B: We talk about that phase in the sales world as a defender and. Protector.
[00:05:28] Speaker A: Yes. Defender. Yeah, we did. We talked about that.
[00:05:30] Speaker B: Yeah, you and I did. For defender, for the book. But in the sales world, one of the things we teach is if you're in the midst of a sales process, you need to defend and protect that prospective client from making the wrong decision.
[00:05:43] Speaker A: Right.
[00:05:43] Speaker B: And I always tell a story about my wife and I when we were dating that I wanted to defend and protect my ability to marry her, but really, it's. It would be defend and protect her from making the wrong decision, because, you know, I'm the right decision.
[00:05:56] Speaker A: Right.
[00:05:58] Speaker B: And so I was gonna be gone for a weekend, and I'm like, well, I don't want some other dude going out with this weekend. So I called her girlfriends up and said, hey, I'm going to give you $50, go have pizza, do a girls thing. And they were like, you're the best ever. Of course they told her. She's. He's great. We love him so much. He helped us out, blah, blah, blah. Well, these girls I knew weren't going to do a dudes weekend, so I was, like, defending and protecting at an early age.
[00:06:20] Speaker A: It was kind of funny. We're sitting here working on this thing, and I've got this stout pen you gave me. It's got camouflage on it.
[00:06:25] Speaker B: Yeah, it's.
[00:06:26] Speaker A: It's stout.
[00:06:26] Speaker B: I have my general patent one right here, too, so.
[00:06:29] Speaker A: Cause you think, like, my dad was an accounting teacher, so that pen, to him, that would have been his weapon as a warrior. He would balance the budget, but if a navy Seal saw that, he might think. And if I needed to with that pen, what I could do with that?
[00:06:43] Speaker B: The wrong person comes in here, the wrong motives, the wrong intentions, different purposes.
[00:06:47] Speaker A: One was a defender that way. One was a defender of your account.
[00:06:50] Speaker B: Yeah. So I think we're probably gonna do something with these things. The final words were lover king and is it sage?
[00:06:57] Speaker A: Right.
[00:06:57] Speaker B: Sage that Eldridge put together. We will probably do a little spin on that and talk deeper about those phases.
[00:07:04] Speaker A: Well, it's like the purpose. Even the name of four streams, or the thing he was talking about within that father by God book. When you think about when a stream starts and all these tributaries, when they all come together, it doesn't happen at once. It's a process. The rain fall comes down and nourishes it and helps the waters rise, and they begin to cut new paths and they begin to make their way until eventually you get something like the Mississippi, which get out of its way. It's the same thing with our purpose. No, we're learning in those early stages, which are like these little streams that are beginning to grow.
[00:07:37] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:07:38] Speaker A: And once they all come together, the purpose is much bigger, broader, and with more force than we stoppable.
[00:07:45] Speaker B: I grew up in central Kansas, and we called the Arkansas river the Arkansas river. That just. What we called it, the Arkansas river. No meaning just no Arkansas. No, it had nothing to do with Kansas. It wasn't like our Kansas river. It was just the Arkansas river. And I didn't know until later that was named after the Arkansas. So it's the Arkansas river, but I'm pretty sure it was Kevin Ferrer. We stood at the beginning of the Arkansas river in Colorado.
[00:08:10] Speaker A: That's very cool.
[00:08:11] Speaker B: And it's nothing like you can stand on both sides of the river, right where they have identified a spring that starts that river. If you work backwards and very cool, it's pretty sweet because you're exactly right. I mean, these mighty Mississippi's, they don't start as a mighty Mississippi, but they become one. That's when they reach that sage stage.
[00:08:28] Speaker A: And I think one of the things we can draw from that is some of these young guys is they're trying to find their purpose. You know, you can't get ahead of this. You've got to allow all these things to happen. One of the stages we're going to be talking about is how, when you're practicing, you've got these passions God's given you, and you've looked at your principles. You know, how am I going to live my life and how am I going to do this stuff? But at some point, you're practicing, and I think that's, that's really important to kind of go along with.
[00:08:53] Speaker B: Yeah, that's pretty cool. Well, great day today, brother. Looking forward to seeing what we continue to produce. And we pray each time before our session that this would be something that glorifies God. That is our ultimate purpose. And he'll be glorified no matter what we do. But we want to bring him glory.
[00:09:09] Speaker A: Yeah. But we have a lot of fun.
[00:09:11] Speaker B: Yeah. I love it. So. Well, thanks, man. I'll talk to you next week.
[00:09:15] Speaker A: See you.
